The koran says you schouldnt believe!

Just like the bible the koran contains cover to cover contradictions written in the format of bronze age gibberish.

My reason for this post is that often people quote the koran to me as if that means anything, usually the poster has cherry picked some verse for some kind of meaning.

I have always found one contradiction particularly interesting, since the meaning of the word Islam actually means means “submission”, or the total surrender of oneself to God.

Lets take a look at what the Koran says on the subject, is belief compulsory according to the Koran? can anyone tell me wich one is right? Is there no compulsion? should anyone that doesn’t believe be killed? LOL remember this is from the so called holy book for islam….

(2:256)

Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things,” .

(9:3)

“And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage,- that Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the Pagans. If then, ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away, know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith,” .

(9:5)

“But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful,” .

(9:29)

Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued,” .

As you can see its all self contradicting and vague, its bullshit from cover to cover. Anyone that believes this crap is a fucking moron, religious people are just total idiots.

Next week: contradictions in the bible

14 Responses to The koran says you schouldnt believe!

  1. Muzolf says:

    I think we can agree we should get rid of the god of abraham, that mass murdering, rape condoning, control freak. Even being only a work fiction, its a dangerous one. Our world would probably be a better one, if Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Mohammed and their so called teachings would have been swept away by the tides of history.

  2. Ken says:

    Abu´othman
    as long as it is good in the face of Your so called God to rape Your enemies wifes,
    You have to understand that there will be alot of people that will find Your foundation Islam as a revolting paranteses in history.

  3. ken says:

    Submissionfollower , says it all. Submit to a stonegod for what ?

  4. Aboo Uthmaan says:

    Rather, it seems that you are yet again missing the point, the Qur’aan and Sunnah is for the Muslims their guidance in life, their life manuals if you like. So if a person tries to use them to justify x, y or z then they have to provide a proof from one of these two sources that what they are trying to prove can be found in these sources, but just as you are still unable to furnish me with a proof for you rabid claims then so are those who commit such atrocities in the name of Islam, so what you state are but mere claims and they can only be proven if you can provide a text from the Book that we follow that justifies your ignorant claims. The burden of proof lies on the claimant, and we are still waiting!

  5. you miss my point totally, the text is to begin with not something you schould justify anything with. It is like killing your grandma and justifying it with the story of little red riding hood. Its meaningless.

    But anyway since you insist, one of the greatest honors of Islam to die a martyr?

    If you carry a gun or explosives doesn’t really matter, does it! as long as you take some of the perceived enemy with you!

    Islam doesn’t preach that suicide is the worst sin you can commit , does it! If it did, do you think you would have any suicide bombers?

    No it just says you shouldn’t commit suicide on the one hand and on the other side it says the best thing you can possibly do in your entire life is to die a martyr…..!!!!

    Even you schould be able to draw the inevitable conclusion here.

  6. Aboo Uthmaan says:

    So you cant furnish me with the proof that Islam justifies suicide bombings?

  7. “If there is a verse that justifies suicide bombings in the Qur’aan I ask you to present it because I can present many evidences from the Qur’aan and Sunnah that are in opposition to what you claim.”

    That is just the point the Koran is just like any other religious book, it isnt some kind of life recipe or book of facts. its a collection of verse and stories rooted in the bronze age. Its vague and contradictory and you can use it to justify or argue for or against anything!

    And you cannot compare a scientific document with the Koran, Evolution is supported by facts and thousands upon thousands of pieces of evidence, the koran isnt supported by any evidence or facts.

    No one can prove or disprove God, just like you cant prove or disprove Unicorns, pixies or trolls. The point is that extraordinary claims made completely without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.

    In this post context is irrelevant, in other scenarios context might well be very relevant. But here i am just illustrating how meaningless it is to use historical fiction as evidence.

    Context in this example is totally irrelevant because the text is just a meaningless work of fiction in the first place.

  8. Aboo Uthmaan says:

    If there is a verse that justifies suicide bombings in the Qur’aan I ask you to present it because I can present many evidences from the Qur’aan and Sunnah that are in opposition to what you claim.

    People can use whatever they like to justify whatever they want, like you use evolution to justify your belief in the non-existence of God, but the problem with that is that not only is your belief flawed, but so is the thing that you base the justification for your belief on.

    And your dismissal of the importance of context is very strange indeed, like things don’t have a context, c’mon dude!

  9. My apologies if you where offended, but in my example,s context is not relevant.

    My point in the post is that you can interpret these books however you want, they don’t contain any truth or guidelines for life.

    Its just superstition with its roots in the bronze age, ancient fairy tales if you will.
    Its dangerous and moronic to treat this as “the absolute truth and the will of god”

    Suicide bombers for example justify their actions via the koran, even their families use the koran as justification. I am sure you have seen the proud father on tv praising allah that his last son had beacome a martyr at the age of 19.

  10. Aboo Uthmaan says:

    You did not answer my question; rather, instead you decided to use vulgar language and insults as opposed to entering into a civil theological discussion.

  11. 🙂 get to know me before you make assumptions.

  12. Shahrzad says:

    Just bcs i am a journalist!🙂

  13. Context my arse are you really so dumb that you cant see that these are contradictory? i see no hope for you?

    I bett you believe in ufos as well, maybe the toothfairy? or i know santaclaus!

  14. Aboo Uthmaan says:

    LOL, you have really surpassed yourself this time.

    What is seemingly contradictory to you is in reality not since you have failed to understand the verses that you have quoted in their correct context. Let me give you an example of how taking things out of context can distort or even change the meaning altogether.

    Allaah (subhaanahu wa ta’aala) said in the Qur’aan:

    “…those who believe, they will have a painful torment in this world and in the Hereafter. And Allaah knows and you know not.” (An-Nur 24:19)

    If one was just to read this part of the verse then one would think that the believers will receive a painful torment in this world and in the Hereafter, but let us look at the ayah in full:

    “Verily, those who like that (the crime of) illegal sexual intercourse should be propagated among those who believe, they will have a painful torment in this world and in the Hereafter. And Allaah knows and you know not.” (An-Nur 24:19)

    Now that we have the full context of the ayah and we come to know the dangers of taking things out of their context. With this in mind it is important for us to realise the context of or strive to understand the context of which something was said in.

    So do you know the context in which the verses you have cited from Soorah at-Tawbah should be in or the specific reason for revelation?

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