bla bla long story back and fort to this article that article, etc!
Anyway this dialog is developing into a disorganized confusing blurb. Now spread over, i don’t know how many blog’s, and the main topic has deviated into a number of sub topics. Topics as diverse as the forum systems on wordpress, to how we technically divide the different belief systems from the lifestyle beliefs such as Buddhism, confusion ism, Hinduism yadida , etc.
In my post i wrongfully assumed that Syd had been able to follow the dialog and posts from the beginning to the current point where our counter arguments currently circulate.
In earlier posts i have clarified that when i talk about mainstream religions i mean Christianity, Islam and the Jewish faith, their beliefs are monotheistic and promote a personal god, there are of course hundreds of deviations of these base religions and they are all generally crap. By the way i have studied religion in depth.
The other belief branch are the “personal lifestyle choice” belief systems, they differ in that the individual person is responsible for their life, they have to account for their own choices etc, contrary to the before mentioned branch that puts this responsibility with sky daddy and reduces the individual enrolled in the particular religion to a mere Muppet.
Choosing to live you life a certain way because you know you are responsible for your choices, is extremely far removed from living your life as commanded by god. Thus your argument that you could also consider the mainstream religions as lifestyle choices are so meaningless it doesn’t really deserve a proper answer.
i myself have worked in 62 countries, and i usually talk to 5-10 different people through my work every day. I have been in this field for 13 years, (you do the math) so you see i have more than adequate coverage to stand by and back up my statements. Mainstream religion is fundamentally flawed! Self contradicting, and totally unrealistic! In short its mass superstition and i think its only right to point this out!
If a person walks around, and is proud of how incredibly stupid and superstitious they are! I will call that person, be it you or anyone else, a fucking stupid moron!
If that person understands their stupidity, and comes to their senses, they can thank me for it later.
If not, good luck with the stupid self deception i hope they don’t reproduce and hand down the stupidity to the next generation.
Lets look at one of your counter arguments.
(Escapedmentalpatient is of the view that I am arguing against him or her on their view of religion. That’s bullshit. What I take offence to escapedmentalpatient is the fact that he or she is demonstrating the same ignorance that ‘fundamentalists’ have. Also, escapedmentalpatient tries to use simple analogies to make broad statements look true through a deducing logic. Here’s what he or said in their post:
‘Would you accept a doctors belief that he could cure canser with leaches? or that your first born should be covered in cigarette smoke to purify it? Of course you wouldn’t, the point is you are probably a smart rational person. But look at what happens when i generally comment on how stupid religion is, and voila!‘ )
Well analogies and deducing logic clarifies the issue? what is your point? that you point out that i use an analogy doesn’t make it any less valid? I could just as well use an example from real life:
Should we allow parents to denie blood transfusions to their children? every year, children die needlessly in the hospital because of their parents belief!
No matter how you look at it mind numbingly stupid!!!!!
Yet you compare me with a fundamentalist for pointing this out? what the fuck is wrong with you?
Anyway lets look at another paragraph
“Obviously, according escapedmentalpatient, those who are religious cannot be ‘reasonable and intelligent people’. What a load of shit. Just because escapedmentalpatient may not agree with some of the views of ‘religious’ people, to say that they have a lack of intelligence and reason is an example of why this person is a closed minded fool, like so many of the ‘fundamentalists’ who s/he despises. Escapedmentalpatient, this is what I mean by being OUTLANDISH!!!!!!!!!!!!”
Nonsense i actively seek feedback enlighten me! prove me wrong! that i am not apologetic about my standpoint doesn’t mean that i don’t listen to justified argument, i encourage it!
Now can you please answer the following 3 questions instead of trying to find meaningless contradiction in sound arguments.
1. Would you describe a person that believes in trolls as reasonable and intelligent?
2. Why should we respect such a belief?
3. What is the difference between believing in trolls and believing in god as defined by the mainstream religions.