I reverted to the two negatives point but only because you said that the Jews were the aggressors all the time or at least implied that .

You still keep talking about the past. Don’t you see it ? The Germans for example have so many partial laws for the Jews now . Call it a feeling of guilt or whatever. But , in most of Europe ,Jews are welcome at least by the men in power .

I live in Germany and I have seen how some laws are relaxed only for the Jews.

Arabs attacked during the Yom Kippur, so whats your point? Israel and the USA had bombarded arabic countries during Arabic holidays. Again you revert to the two negatives point. Im not trying to prove that Arabs or Muslems are all nice people and only victims, im about to prove that they are only one side of a the problem. A problem having its roots in religion.

And dint think christians would be nicer to isrealis, during the crusades christian knights looted and slaughtered jew communities just like they did loot the muslem ones.

Of course, there is a lot of lies . Might is right to an extent and this is sad. The Jewish lobby is powerful and usually the Muslims are demonized. However, no one is guilt free. Sometimes ,the Israelis start conflicts saying it is preemptive and sometimes the Arabs start it quoting some other reason .

I would not demonize Israel if the majority of the Arabs were Christian . The fact remains if they were Christian , this conflict would not occur anyway. So ,your argument holds no relevance. If they were Christian ,the USA would not give Israel the moral support. See, Muzolf , I am no expert but what I think is that the Israelis would be more cautious or rather behave if they did not have the support of the USA. What do you think ? For the Israelis , the Jewish Lobby in the USA and the support from the USA is very important.

Wake up, and see trough the media deception that is going on. 90% of what you are told are lies and twisted facts, or facts taken out of context. There are no “good” and “bad” sides, only the victorius and underdogs. Abuses occur when there is an ubalance of power, and there is an absolute unbalance of power here. Of course the one who has the upper hand can magnify the deeds of his enemis and nicely put away his own.

But this isnt the real point anywhay right? The issue is, one side here are muslems. I bet if the populus of egypt, syria, and the palestinians were christian, but doing exactly the same things, you would demonise Israel.

The truth neither any of them neither you can see that on both side, there are simply, people. Some more sophisticated as others, yes, but the only real reason for the problems is religion. The egyptians, the Syrians, the palestinians and yes the Israelis too, they all whant only to live. However politicans do whant more, and religious zealots too. And the great masses on all sides buy the lies of their own, and fear the other. And preemtive strike or not, if my country is attacked, by another country wich simply appeared there, with clearly buig territorial ambitions, i would feel threatened too.

The Nazis were well prepared and technologically advanced and so are the Israelis. The Nazis wanted to get rid of the Jews . All Israelis do not want all the Arabs gone . They want to live .

And they arent really surrounded by enemys. Theres is the sea you know. Anywhays, this “We are surrounded by enemys”, stuff is one of the best ways to justify their deeds. Remember your argument about America, that the japanese attacked them? Well just for your information, Israel attacked Egyt and Syria, not the other way around. Since its existence, they are the ones on the offensive. Not once, had a country declared war on Israel without Israel taking military action against them first. So? Whos the agressor here?

I am not glorifying Israel but the Israelis are really smart whether you agree or not .